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Post by guntotingmonkeyboy on Nov 7, 2008 17:44:15 GMT -5
Ok, I finally got that .35 remington to the range. It is significantly easier to load than the .300 Savage, in that I can push the cartridges straight down into the magazine with my thumb, instead of inserting them as I described in my previous post. Egads, that was a run on sentence from hell... Anyway, in addition to being easier to load, I also didn't have to monkey around with the front sight. It shot more or less dead on out to 25 yards. I'll have to take it out to the longer range soon. As the gun heated up, the groups started opening up some. I don't really think that it will be an issue if I ever end up taking this one hunting. But it is kind of interesting to see. The one strange thing that noticed was the recoil. I had mentioned it with the .300, but with this gun, it was much more pronounced. I have a 141 in .35 that is a joy to shoot all day long. This critter, not so much. It's recoil was pushing that of .30-06. While not excessive enough to render the gun painful, it is much stouter than one would expect with such a mild round. Both the factory fodder and my handloads had this problem, which leads me to believe that it is an artifact of the recoil action rather than something with either the caliber or the ammunition. Does anybody else see this, or is it just me? Oh well. It was still lots of fun. This one is just as much fun as the other one. Not bad for $250.
-Mb
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Post by tbury on Nov 8, 2008 10:12:58 GMT -5
Mb, If you have one of the straight stocked guns, that will give the recoil a stout feel. That is why 81s had pistol grip stocks. And of course if you shoot from a bench it all goes to your shoulder. Dave
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Post by outlaw6 on Nov 10, 2008 11:07:33 GMT -5
MB - Sounds like 81s in .35 kick as much as the 8s do. I have a model 8 in .35 with one of those crescent metal butt plates and yep, it kicks about as much as my ought six. Had a 141 in the same caliber that wasn't as bad. I read somewhere that due to the mechanics and physics of the long recoil action, the 8s and 81s recoil is equal to a .35 round going off in a 5 1/2 pound rifle. Add to that a hard butt plate, a lot of drop at comb in the stock, a 200 grain bullet, and they do pound you a bit. Guess we like 'real mens' guns!
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Post by Hardrada55 on Nov 10, 2008 11:13:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry to admit it, but I traded off a nice 81 in .300 Savage for an OK .401. The recoil on the .300 was just that brutal.
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Post by tnrifleman on Nov 11, 2008 20:09:49 GMT -5
Yep, the 300 does have a bit of "set back" to it. I do really like mine though!
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Post by guntotingmonkeyboy on Nov 11, 2008 20:19:19 GMT -5
All I can say is that it is lucky for the gun that it is so much fun to shoot. Otherwise I'd get rid of it. Well, ok, probably not, seeing as I never get rid of guns. But since it is a take down, like my 141 in the same cartridge, it'll probably end up going hunting with me one of these days when I head to Texas for hogs again. If I am going to bring two guns, they may as well be in the same caliber...
-Mb
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Post by kirk on Nov 11, 2008 23:35:27 GMT -5
Is the recoil on a .300 considerably more than the .35, cause I have my eye on one and I think that the .35 in an 8/81 is very tolerable?
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Post by 81police on Nov 12, 2008 8:20:24 GMT -5
Is the recoil on a .300 considerably more than the .35, cause I have my eye on one and I think that the .35 in an 8/81 is very tolerable? I think the .300 and .35 are very tolerable and I dont have a lot of weight behind me either. My humble opinion from shooting both is that the .35 is a bit rougher with 200gr bullets. I mean for hunting you dont feel any recoil, you're too pumped up. Now my shoulder wouldn't enjoy sitting down on a bench and shooting a few boxes out of one. Just my opinion though.
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Post by tbury on Nov 12, 2008 10:38:24 GMT -5
Factory spec on muzzle energy for 30-06 180gr, 300sav 180 gr and 35 rem 200gr are 2913, 2207, and 1921 ft-lbs respectively. So a 300 savage should recoil about 10% more than 35 rem. Neither is all that pleasant from the bench or prone. After shooting my 1903 in a service match without a shooting jacket or shoulder pad I bought a strap-on pad (on me not the gun) and use it for bench work with the heavy hitters. I do not need it for off hand or sitting positions or any position for 30 and 25 Rem. I would not let recoil stand in the way of buying an 8 or 81 I wanted. JMHO
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Post by guntotingmonkeyboy on Nov 12, 2008 20:49:46 GMT -5
Ok, in my case, I found the .35 Remington with 200 grain bullets to be harder recoiling than my .300 savage with 150 grain bullets. Now, like I said, it is close to .30-06, not something that will leave you battered and bruised. Just more than with the same cartridges in different guns. And like 81 police said, you won't notice it hunting. You never do. Heck, the only thing I remember about the recoil is that it takes me a fraction of a second to get back on target. I can't remember anything other than that about any of the shots I have taken over the years.
-Mb
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