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Post by riceone on Aug 10, 2010 6:39:09 GMT -5
I have gotten the forearm off and need to get the bolt block out so I can clean some collected rust. How do you get that part out. I see a rod with a screwdriver slot but it only turns. Would some one help
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Post by Hardrada55 on Aug 10, 2010 8:31:06 GMT -5
Henwood "The Forgotten Winchesters": "These rifles are not meant to be taken apart. The author has done so on a number of occasions and he will testify that before you get the bolt spring back into place you will have lost the last shred of your temper, and probably the skin off of several knuckles as well."
"The only reasons for removing the bolt are to replace a broken firing pin, to replace buffer discs, or to refinish the rifle. It is easy to remove the bolt, but it is difficult to replace it, reinstall the bolt spring and the buffer unit, and get the guide rod back through them."
"Then slide the forearm forward and remove it. Form the front reach down inside the inertia weight portion of the bolt and unscrew the guide rod, it is slotted for a screwdriver. (Long before you get the rifle reassembled you are going to wish you had not done this.) Be certain that the bolt is closed before you unscrew the guide rod; the bolt spring is under considerable tension even when the bolt is closed, and you can get hurt removing it. Remove the guide rod; don't worry about removing the bolt spring, it will come out by itself. Look around until you find it. Remove the bolt; then remove those buffer discs and washers from under the barrel (normally these come out with the bolt). There should be two of each. Some models have one flat washer and one shaped washer; the shaped washer goes toward the front. Model 1910 rifles use a cupped "buffer pocket" at the rear, and a shaped washer at the front.
"Winchester always claimed that "special factory tools" were required to assemble the bolt into the receiver, but never gave any clues as to what these tools might look like, nor any hints as to how ordinary mortals might accomplish the task. The author usually clamps the barrel in a padded vice, wedges everything in sight in place with screwdrivers, and slowly forces the spring down inside the opening in the inertia weight portion of the bolt and onto the guide rod. Just as the last inch of spring is about to fit onto the rod one or another of the screwdrivers will slip and you will have to start over. Begin early, so you won't miss dinner."
Further...Henwood recommends safety glasses as several of the springs are under heavy tension and to disassemble the gun in a cardboard box so that you will catch "about 75% of the springs and parts which go flying about during disassembly"... Good Luck.
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Post by riceone on Aug 10, 2010 18:19:35 GMT -5
Shortly after posting this morning I figured out that it had to go back the same way it came apart. I enlisted the help of two other friends and we assembled it back just as you describe. The reason I disassembled it was the amount of rust I could see on the rear of the bolt around the firing pin and on the side and top. Considerable rust in top of bolt well. But after cleaning there was no pitting and all the rust came off and its really in good condition. This rifle was found in the attic of a house under the storage floor. No telling how long it had been there. Like you, I would not advise anyone to take one of these apart except under extreme necessity. However I am very glad I did take it apart as it really needed what I did to it.
Thanks. riceone
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Post by blackbahart on Jun 7, 2013 2:50:45 GMT -5
Hi ,I think I figured it out and not really to bad to assemble as it takes under 2 minutes. I place the rifle upside down in a shooting rest and tighten the butt clamp on the receiver.then place the buffer assembly /washer in place and slide on the breech block /slide in place .now get thin cardboard from a cerial box and make a square 4x6" 2 plys and slide under the slide up against the buffer assembly between the barrel and slide and pull assembly forward till the chamber is shut . now cut a strip of the same cardboard to fit into the slot that the recoil spring goes through and also 2 plys push it in the slot and you should have a over hang on each side kinda like a u shape . now put the guide rod in its place and push to the rear and you will see it in the U of the cardboard ,now start spring into place by hand till it gets in place .Now using a flat blade screw driver start pulling the spring in and push the guide rod to the rear/receiver You will now be able to grab more spring with the screw driver and repeat ,the spring stays in place as it held in place by the rod , making sure you don't let the rod out to far.Once spring is in place and the rod is up against the buffer ,dont shove the rod all the way in yet . Now pull the lower cardboards from between barrel and slide ,then the cardboards from around spring and now push the rod into place and tighten I described the procedure as I have done this numerous times and it is not intimidating to do now I hope this helps and if I can offer any assistance I will be glad to help Cheers Peter I recently got another 1905 and the forestock was broken and after removing it noticed no recoil buffer ,so I took some pics when installin the spring .Hope it is helpful
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Post by blackbahart on Oct 5, 2013 12:24:11 GMT -5
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