crank
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Post by crank on May 27, 2011 10:24:06 GMT -5
I will be picking up a 1910 Winchester and would appreciate some pointers for loading ammo. I will have to wait until I have it in my hot little hands to slug the bore, but I am curious what personal experience any fellow owners have with using stock or swaged down jacketed .410 diameter bullets. Since I shoot a .41Mag, it would be nice to utilize a readily available suppy of jacketed bullets. I do not own any specialized reloading equipment (bullet swaging or sizing) and would be looking for inexpensive options. I realize that there is a great variation in bore sizes and could wind up with anything from .406-.408 groove depth. I see that Hawk offers a .406dia. bullet for a premium price tag and wonder if the cartridge would be forgiving enough to sqeeze a .410 without driving pressure into an uncomfortable level. If swaging can work, is there an affordable means to accomplish it, labor intensive does not bother me. I have looked at all of the posts and did not find any reference specifically to reducing the diameter of a jacketed bullet. I will look forward to any input from fellow members. By the way, if anyone has a decrepit/altered/bubba'd/incomplete model 1905 that they would be interested in parting with for a reasonable price, please contact me since I have an idea which I will need a donor for. Thanks in advance.
Mark
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Post by crank on Jun 8, 2011 19:51:41 GMT -5
Well, not a peep from anyone, but I have an update. I now have the brass and the dies. I pulled a .41 Mag 210gr bullet and seated it in the case, then into the magazine for a feeding test. Not even the slightest restriction in the chamber, I think I am going to get some bullets and develop a load for this rifle to comfortably cycle without insane pressures. I have other hot-rods I can get more power from if I feel underpowered. I will try to start assembling some loads towards the end of the month, after I alter enough brass to Boxer primers. I would still appreciate any experience that others can share.
Mark
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Post by Hardrada55 on Jun 10, 2011 6:43:32 GMT -5
John Henwood writes in his book, The Forgotten Winchesters, that his favorite load for the .401 is 13.5 Grains of Hercules 2400 and a 220 grain Lyman #410459 bullet sized to .410. Gives a velocity of 1109 fps. Another load Henwood mentions is the same bullet with 20 grains of IMR 4227 for 1364fps.
He warns against using jacketed bullets for the .41 Magnum handgun because the bullet jackets are not strong enough to allow proper expansion at the increased velocity of the rifle loads and that they are too large in diameter for safe use in the .401.
He says you can use cast lead alloy bullets sized no larger than .410.
He also says, "Do not assume that because 27 grains of 4227 is a published load for the .401 with a .406 inch jacketed bullet it is suitable for a .410 cast bullet. Such assumptions will almost certainly get you into trouble. If you are going to use oversized bullets (almost a necessity with currently available bullet molds and sizing dies) you must tailor the powder charge to suite the bullet."
I am sure you know all this, but more than you and I will read this posting.
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Post by mumintrollet on May 20, 2012 9:27:03 GMT -5
I to have a 1910, but no reloading tools. Do you use the .41mag tools or have you found .401 tools?
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crank
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Post by crank on May 20, 2012 21:15:16 GMT -5
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Post by mumintrollet on May 22, 2012 5:40:14 GMT -5
Thank you, sir. Would it be possible for a broke fellar to use another caliber tool untill i can muster upp all that cash i have searched the world for a secondhand .401sl set, without any luck. $10 for used common caliber is alot less than $80 for a new correct After all i am going to alter 7.62x39 brass, not buy expensive .401sl.
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Post by blackbahart on Jun 7, 2013 10:35:06 GMT -5
yes it has been done with 41 rem mag dies.I use 762x39 lapua brass(found it for 45/100) trim a little on the web above the extractor grove so case will fit in chamber.
Charge the case with aprox 8gr of 700x and pack the rest of case with filler and fire form ,trim and then load
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