I will be picking up a 1910 Winchester and would appreciate some pointers for loading ammo. I will have to wait until I have it in my hot little hands to slug the bore, but I am curious what personal experience any fellow owners have with using stock or swaged down jacketed .410 diameter bullets. Since I shoot a .41Mag, it would be nice to utilize a readily available suppy of jacketed bullets. I do not own any specialized reloading equipment (bullet swaging or sizing) and would be looking for inexpensive options. I realize that there is a great variation in bore sizes and could wind up with anything from .406-.408 groove depth. I see that Hawk offers a .406dia. bullet for a premium price tag and wonder if the cartridge would be forgiving enough to sqeeze a .410 without driving pressure into an uncomfortable level. If swaging can work, is there an affordable means to accomplish it, labor intensive does not bother me. I have looked at all of the posts and did not find any reference specifically to reducing the diameter of a jacketed bullet. I will look forward to any input from fellow members. By the way, if anyone has a decrepit/altered/bubba'd/incomplete model 1905 that they would be interested in parting with for a reasonable price, please contact me since I have an idea which I will need a donor for. Thanks in advance.
Well, not a peep from anyone, but I have an update. I now have the brass and the dies. I pulled a .41 Mag 210gr bullet and seated it in the case, then into the magazine for a feeding test. Not even the slightest restriction in the chamber, I think I am going to get some bullets and develop a load for this rifle to comfortably cycle without insane pressures. I have other hot-rods I can get more power from if I feel underpowered. I will try to start assembling some loads towards the end of the month, after I alter enough brass to Boxer primers. I would still appreciate any experience that others can share.
John Henwood writes in his book, The Forgotten Winchesters, that his favorite load for the .401 is 13.5 Grains of Hercules 2400 and a 220 grain Lyman #410459 bullet sized to .410. Gives a velocity of 1109 fps. Another load Henwood mentions is the same bullet with 20 grains of IMR 4227 for 1364fps.
He warns against using jacketed bullets for the .41 Magnum handgun because the bullet jackets are not strong enough to allow proper expansion at the increased velocity of the rifle loads and that they are too large in diameter for safe use in the .401.
He says you can use cast lead alloy bullets sized no larger than .410.
He also says, "Do not assume that because 27 grains of 4227 is a published load for the .401 with a .406 inch jacketed bullet it is suitable for a .410 cast bullet. Such assumptions will almost certainly get you into trouble. If you are going to use oversized bullets (almost a necessity with currently available bullet molds and sizing dies) you must tailor the powder charge to suite the bullet."
I am sure you know all this, but more than you and I will read this posting.
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