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Post by uhjohnson on Sept 4, 2016 15:17:15 GMT -5
I bought a .32 cal 1905 magazine off eBay and it doesn have any caliber marking on the bottom. Without inserting it in a rifle that is deep in the safe, I can put both a 32 and a 351 round in it. Are the magazines for the 32 and 351 interchangeable
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Post by Hardrada55 on Sept 4, 2016 16:33:30 GMT -5
Original Winchester magazines for the Self-Loading Rifles are marked on the bottom of the magazine with the appropriate markings, i.e. "-.32 CAL.-" for .32 WSL and ".35 CAL.-" for .35 WSL, "-.351 CAL.-" for .351 WSL and "-.401 CAL.-" for .401 WSL. Because your magazine is not marked at all on the bottom, it may be it is come kind of "after-market" magazine. The .32 WSL round and the .351 WSL round are about the same length, but the .351 is fatter. Because the cartridge for the .351 is fatter than the cartridge for the .32 WSL and I have read that magazines were supposed to be factory "fitted" to the rifle, I would think that a magazine that would be wide enough to work in the .351 would be too wide for the magazine well of a .32 WSL. Because 1905 rifles were discontinued in the early 1920s, and 1907 rifles continued up to the mid-1950s, I would suspect that any "after-market" magazines made were made for the 1907 and the .351 WSL cartridge alone. I have one for my .351. I have a French magazine for the .351 that looks identical to a Winchester factory .351 magazine except for the markings on the bottom. I don't think the 1905 lasted long enough and not enough were produced for it to be worth while for companies to start making "after-market" magazines for the 1905. I have heard about 1905 rifles in .35 WSL having .351 WSL magazines being sold with them. .351 WSL looks like a long version of .35 WSL. Sorry for the crappy answer, I guess you're just going to have to fish into that safe and pull that .32 out of there.
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Post by blackbahart on Sept 5, 2016 15:19:37 GMT -5
as Hardrada55 stated the caliber is marked on the bottom,some are not marked but they are exactly like the original with the roller and all .The 1905 35 wsl has a blocker in the front of the mag .The 32 has a guide lips just before where mag starts to curve for the projectile and the follower is releived to follow the lops ,kinda like a skeleton key hole .If you put 351 into a proper 32wsl mag it will mark the cartrige case behind the bullet.I have some unmarked and marked for 32wsl.. left to right 401-351-32-35 I will take some pics tonite to show the difference.The proper 35wsl mags appear to be the hardest to locate ,but regular 351 will feed them .
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Post by uhjohnson on Sept 5, 2016 19:43:46 GMT -5
Thanks blackbahart, i do have an unmarked 32 mag because of the guides, i would not have seen them without your picts. They are not as pronounced as yours but they are there, i did push a 351 in under the guides and it won't come out. I will try to get a piece of dental floss under and pull. I have not shot any of my SL's and so far i have 1 1903, made in 1907; 2 1905's, both 35, first and second year; 2 1907's, both 1940 one of which appears to never have been shot and 1 1910, 76 numbers from the last recorded rifle. I have ammo and brass for all and i am in the process of locating dies and bullets/moulds. I bought 100 401 converted shells from grumpaboo(1 dollar apiece, made from .414 cases) and they are dead on to Winchester cases. I am looking forward to shoot these rifles but I'm also going to have to look into the buffers before doing so
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Post by blackbahart on Sept 5, 2016 20:11:30 GMT -5
I am happy that I was able to clear the mag ID up and the only way is with pics .Sounds like you are ammassing a hoard of the WSL rifles Congrats!I made 401 from 414 and it is sturdy stuff Cheers Peter
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